I didn’t want to bring this up in the other post, and rain on all the excitement over Lee, but that behavior is shameful. Uts just gave your team a two run lead, and you sit there like you’re waiting for a bus.

I completely agree with the Tyler Walker statement. He sweats way more than he has to. I think he has a mister back there.

What a bitch ass…

Also, as a guy that enjoys good seats at a ballgame, there are few places worse than the bullpen to watch a game. Seriously, look how far away from the action he is. That is just a terrible view and he didn’t get to high five Utley when he crossed the plate. I would be pissed, too. That’s like taking away someone’s seat behind the dugout and putting them out in Ashburn Alley with the commoners. Harumpff!

Man and I thought I was a stereotypical Phillies fan, but you guys put me to shame. How quick you all are to forget how well this guy pitched last year. Would you guys say the same about hamels if he got put in the bullpen and acted the same way as jamie, especially since he hasn’t done much better this year. Jamie is almost 47 years old, and has more career wins than the entire rotation put together, not including pedro. If Jamie wants to pout and mope about the bullpen, but still comes out and pitches like he did on Tuesday, let him. He’s earned it.

Oh, stop. Moyer could act like Chan Ho Park, say something along the lines of “I’ll do whatever it takes to help this team, I believe I’m good enough to come back and start.” or something, rather than crying about it and pretending he had some imaginary deal where he gets to be a starter forever and ever.

I think a big part of it is taking him away from the rest of the team and sticking him in the bullpen. He’s the kind of guy who likes hanging over the gate and watching the game…he doesn’t want to watch from center field. Considering he just pitched 6 innings 2 nights ago and probably won’t pitch for another week, why should he still hang out there. He should just chill in the dugout for the next few games. It’s not a far walk to the pen in indeed he needs to go out to warm up.

Awesome tag, love the frown face

I dunno Iam not upset about moyer being the way he is. maybe its because I just don’t care. but look at it this way. How would you guys feel that after 25 years of doing what you loved and have lived you life realizing that it is most likely over. Id be pretty fucking bummed. Its like the day before you graduate and realize fuck I need to get a real job that day sucks so much. I mean yeah most of us dealt with it but getting crazy drunk, but I am sure there were alot of people who got pretty bummed realizing that its over. give him a few weeks and send him some cheese to go with his wine. no really hes a wine person

damn it the major, now i look like an idiot

I wasn’t directing it at you, meech. This whole thing just reminds me of when Jimmy called the fans frontrunners, only this isn’t something directed at us. Jamie has shown nothing ut class up to this point, but it just feels like a ton of fans are just going sour on him while I think he is still capable of helping us as more than just a bullpen hand.

i dont think jamie is out of line for his newly somber personality, but hes never really been upbeat to begin with. I can see how he rubs fans the wrong way these days. In reality, he could really just be reserving himself from showing his frustrating and in doing so seems like a pouty baby. Its so hard to tell. One thing is for sure, everytime hes on the mound he’ll try his best to show Ruben and Charlie they made a mistake. In a way, im glad hes sulking.. if he was upbeat about his demotion we’d scold him for being phoney. Hes being real i suppose, even if hes being a big hairy baby. what would you guys do if you got demoted? id be furiously headbutting shit, thats for sure

d.whitmore, jamie thought the ball was mislead to the bullpen

What I don’t understand is that Moyer is allowing this to tarnish his legacy. He would be beloved in Philadelphia had he retired last year. Or even if he would have retired when they sent him to the pen.

But now, because he’s yet another jock who couldn’t figure out he was finished, he has turned a lot of the fanbase against him. And that’s just sad because he was a key part of making us the WFC.

I disagree Tartan….I mean Phillies fans are pretty fickle but I would be fairly suprised if this is what we all remember about Moyer in 10 years. Seriously, that’s fucked up. I, for one, will remember him for pitching in two straight division clinchers and in a WS win (that should have been his win, fucking ump).

I am willing to give Jamie the benefit of the doubt with this. I feel he is such a competitor that this is how he handles it. I was the same way in little league. In his heart he is still a kid, but has to deal with an older mans limitations. This is simply how he is showing his frustration at this time. He will get over it.

What the hell? Okay, so the guy’s a little depressed… who among us wouldn’t be if you were a starter and just got sent to the ‘pen?

He’s saying the right things (“let’s just concentrate on the game”) and not being a prick about it. Let’s not throw the guy under the bus just yet.

I don’t think that the fans are turning on him. He got a pretty big round of applause when he left the game the other night. Being as he turned in a pretty good performance, I would hope that he realizes that this is where he can help the team the most. He’s been a GOOD (not great) pitcher for a long time, and most definitely deserves some respect, but stats don’t lie. It’s not fair to the rest of the team to trott his ass out there every five days so he can get lit up. That’s the price you pay for pitching for a team that’s in championship contention. You’ll be alright, Pops.

“Man and I thought I was a stereotypical Phillies fan, but you guys put me to shame. How quick you all are to forget how well this guy pitched last year.”

People like yourself piss me off. Who gives a FUCK what he did LAST year. He is sucking THIS year, and thats all that matters.

“If Jamie wants to pout, I have no problem with it. He’s not letting it affect his performance and he’s not talking about it (except for that first statement). I think it’s understandable.”

No, woman. It may not affect his performance but it may be distracting to other players on the team. I don’t have a problem with him being upset, but you do it behind closed doors and not put it out there for everyone to see.

He is also putting himself ahead of the team. Maybe he thinks he is better than Pedro, but truth is, he isn’t. He sucks. They should have never re-signed him, he didn’t deserve that contract.

What makes Philadelphia sports fans great is that they live in the present rather than living in the past. While Yankees fans and Steelers fans and Lakers fans, etc will bring their multiple championships up in conversation, Philadelphia fans focus their arguments on near present performance. That said, Jamie Moyer, Cole Hamels, Jimmy Rollins and anyone else who performs poorly DOES NOT get a free pass to act like a douche based on what they did in the past.

The truth is this is a regular season issue because once we get to the playoffs Jamie and Pedro will both be sitting out because The Phillies will rock a 4 man rotation of Lee, Hamels, Blanton and Happ.

If being “sour and dour” doesn’t have an impact on Jamie’s performance on the field, he can “pout” for the rest of the season.

i think all he wants is his own birdland T

Harry you gotta chill out man. It “may be distracting” to others? Cmon dude. This team has been on fire since the Jamie demotion so I really doubt anyone is distracted. And if he was putting himself ahead of the team he would have demanded a trade or a release so that he could pitch elsewhere.

“Who gives a FUCK what he did last year. He is sucking THIS year.” So I guess you would just move out Hamels as well, right Harry? As others have mentioned, its dumb to just give players extra chances over and over because of things they did in the past. But to just completely throw out all the positives of a player’s career here is stupid. I’m living in the moment with this Phils team but I’ll be damned if someone thinks it’s not ok for me to be nostalgic about last year’s team.

And real classy with the “No, woman.” comment, Harry. Stuff like that always makes people want to listen to what you have to say.

The Birdland shirt should look like cover of About Schmidt with Moyer as the Nicolson character

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm310419200/tt0257360

Big Miles – you’re right, I initially over-reacted. It just pisses me off because Moyer is suppose to be this great guy who teaches the young guys how to act like a big leaguer and then he acts like a baby as soon as he is put in the pen.

“Who gives a FUCK what he did last year. He is sucking THIS year.” So I guess you would just move out Hamels as well, right Harry?

Are you actually comparing Cole Hamels to Jamie Moyer? I sure as hell hope not. Moyer is an old bum who has been one of the league worst starters this season.

Re: the woman comment, I stand my ground on that since they are the inferior gender.

56th

Jamie….you’re in the bullpen now. GET. THE FUCK. OVER IT.

At your age, you’re lucky to be pitching in the Major Leagues. Hell, you’re lucky to be pitching. HELL, you’re lucky to be WALKING AND RUNNING.

Your body language and attitude sucks. You’re setting a bad example for kids and younger players (in other words, ALL players.)

Get out there and tell the people the right things. If you can’t have fun pitching out of the bullpen, then RETIRE.

Because the Fightins have FUN when they’re playing…even if they’re down 8-1.

If this is all a misunderstanding, then I apologize, but voice your opinion clearly.

We still need you. But we don’t need the sass or the sourpussness. Quit Albert Belle’n.

Jennifer, what are you cooking for dinner tonight? And I hope you got the laundry done.

/Harry’d

i feel bad for Moyer, but the dude is getting old and is kind of losing his grip…and i mean kind of as in starting to…he hasnt lost it yet, but its close to calling it quits for him.

i love him to death and i hate to see him go…but when you gotta go, you gotta go

i love you MOYER! keep doing your thing! you’ll get in there once in a while to prove yourself like you did tuesday night

Hey, if I got told I was getting demoted from a job I was doing for 20+ years for some guy just showing up on the job, I’d be pissed too. So as long as this is only a distraction for us, the fans, I could give two flying shits how he looks in the pen.

@Gaze
No, most reasonable Steelers fans pride themselves on the fact that we are relevant year in, year out, as both the Eagles and Steelers have been. I guess I’m not in the right area of the state for the Eagles/Steelers hatred…

@Lynniemac
Yeah, I know, and I really hope Pedro doesn’t end up “some guy just showing up on the job.” My point was that about 20% of people would pull a T.O. and blow things out of proportion, 40% would do what Jamie’s doing right now, and the other 20% would take it with class. I’m just not going to knock him for doing what he’s doing right now. If it continues through September, well, then my stance changes.

lol, forgive my math everyone, long day at work with no sleep.

brett myers took a demotion TO THE MINORS with class. and he doesn’t do much of anything with class. just sayin.

Moyer has yet to do anything classless. He commented after his demotion, and has been relatively quiet since then. The only bitching I’ve seen is from fans who seem to believe they know exactly what he’s thinking/feeling based on the look on his face while he’s sitting in the pen/walking off the field/having a bowel movement/etc.

Jamie should just be happy he isn’t a Met

Personally I just think that the fact that there are almost 80 comments on this post shows that Phils fans in general have turned on Moyer since the beginning of the season and are looking for ways to critique him. Pedro has still yet to do anything to prove he is a significant upgrade over Moyer, but everyone sees to believe wholeheartedly that is the case. I’m not saying that he won’t eventually prove himself to be an upgrade….but I just think everyone has had it out for Jamie since he pitched poorly in April and May.

@Cola Classic
Correct.

TC: Off, yes, of course. But so long as he continues to go out and do his job, and we don’t see him doing situps for CNN in his driveway, or starting locker room brawls with Matt Stairs, it really shouldn’t matter.

I knew Chris was a trouble maker.

She would be more pissed if you picked up Syphillis. Wrap it up, dude.

Go for it Chris. btw, are we going to like post 100 like what Tug said on a post.

Since you brought it up J-D, I was thinking of saying, They’re the worst STD ever, but the easiest to get rid of. Look out for those stairs!

ERIC BRUNTLETT IS THIRSTY TOO

Fuck Joe Carter.

A client for my work is named Joe Carter, and he’s super nice. It pissed me off.

Why does Bruntlett hang out by himself? Oh I know why, beardo.

what would be awesome is if I beat him to it this time. PWNED!

100 boys

oh wow!!!! This is total bull shit for me.

Now I can pay attention to the game.

something like that.

Home Run Payoff innings. Scott and LA discusss the next contestant:

Scott: You read the name this time.
LA: Lauren… from Philadelphia
(Both giggle)
Scott: OK. Lauren….Lickaz? Yeah, let’s call it that.

Hey Chris, I hope you’re not at Bally’s Casino, because I hear no one wins there.

Think the Phils would fine Moyer if he tried to steal the rubber again?

Why is everyone attacking Moyer? He’s always been stoic. Give the man a break. He’s been doing this job since 1986 and I’m sure his self-worth or whatever is in the gutter right now. He pitched 6 shut-out innings. Let him sulk in peace and have some respect.

@Fink I doubt it Fink.. most likely he was a starting pitcher twice and won both games in the World Series. He is a legendary Yankee-killer!

@negative Phillie fans.. Look at the guys record.. he does not deserve such disrespect.. Its good for him to sit, as witnessed by the 6 shutout innings, but lay off the guy.. every pitcher has less than good season now and again.. see it in the long perspective and be also glad that you have him to back up Pedro, cause he is gonna be whining about backaches and toothaches and stiff shoulder and sore arm etc etc.. we all know his yap.

@agist Phillie fans.. the jokes about Depends and laxatives are disgusting and only show how small you minds are.. grow up!

@RoboCop, English as a second language?

@RoboCop:
“Look at the guys record.. he does not deserve such disrespect”

I’ve looked at the guy’s record. I suppose you will point out that he has the most wins this year. I would like to point out that he also has the most losses and his ERA and WHIP are the highest. If demoting him (temporarily – for I do believe it’s temporary because I’m not sure what anyone can realistically expect from Pedro) is disrespectful, what would showing him respect be? Allowing him to stay in the rotation regardless of performance simply because he’s been around so long? I suppose you’d demote J.A. Happ because he’s the youngest, despite the fact that his ERA is HALF of what Moyer’s is.

That would be reverse ageism.